Fat Finger Forensics – Stretching The Truth

Stretching The Truth

The Greenland GRIP ice core chronology was constructed using Flow Modeling which [if we didn’t know better] appears to contain the hallmarks of a simple goal seeking exercise designed to confirm the narrative of an interglacial preceded by an Ice Age.

GRIP Flow Model


The 3,029 metre GRIP ice core was 1,641.6 metres longer than the 1,387.4 recovered by the Greenland Gatekeepers from Camp Century in 1966 and accordingly the Flow Model dully delivered a chronology that dated the ice at a depth of 2,983.2 metres as 248,763 years before 1950.


The mainstream Greenland GRIP ice core chronology doesn’t contain any obvious artefacts that reflect the Little Ice Age and climatologists have [therefore] suggested there wasn’t a single well-defined period of prolonged cold i.e. just some randomly cold local conditions.

GRIP Flow Model AD

It has been conventionally defined as a period extending from the sixteenth to the nineteenth centuries, or alternatively, from about 1300 to about 1850, although climatologists and historians working with local records no longer expect to agree on either the start or end dates of this period, which varied according to local conditions.



The Little Ice Age Wasn’t a Global Event narrative is very important [to the mainstream] because if the Little Ice Age was really a global event [that included Greenland] then their Greenland ice core chronologies would be wrong and their narrative of the Holocene being preceded by an Ice Age could simply disintegrate.

The mainstream ammonium record derived from the Greenland GRIP ice core chronology between 400 and 1600 AD displays no obvious signs of the Little Ice Age.

Fig. 5.4. The ammonium record from AD 400 to 1600 derived from the Greenland GRIP ice core (Furher et al. 1993) [Data provided by the National Snow and Ice Data Center, University of Colorado at Boulder, and the WDC-A for Paleoclimatology, National Geophysical Data Center, Boulder, Colorado]

Tree-Rings Indicate Global Environmental Downturns That Could Have Been Caused By Comet Debris – M G L Baillie
Comet/Asteroid Impacts and Human Society: An Interdisciplinary Approach
Editors: Peter T. Bobrowsky and Hans Rickman
Springer – 2007

In fact the 1,200 year long ammonium record from the GRIP ice core chronology appears to be uncannily similar to the 40 year long GISP H nitrate record.

Granted, the 1,200 year ammonium chronology has an exaggerated vertical scale and a slightly compressed horizontal appearance.

But, overall, the level of detail is remarkably similar.


The Carrington Event Not Observed In Most Ice Core Nitrate Records
E W Wolff, M Bigler, M A J Curran, J E Dibb, M M Frey, M Legrand, J R McConnell
Geophysical Research Letters – Volume 39 – Issue 8 – April 2012

See: https://malagabay.wordpress.com/2015/12/02/ammonium-2-the-aurora-ring/

The intriguing aspect of the 40 year long GISP H nitrate record is that some of the annual nitrate cycles tend to display shoulders than can broaden out to become fat fingers that spread over two years in the chronology.


The Carrington Event Not Observed In Most Ice Core Nitrate Records
E W Wolff, M Bigler, M A J Curran, J E Dibb, M M Frey, M Legrand, J R McConnell
Geophysical Research Letters – Volume 39 – Issue 8 – April 2012

See: https://malagabay.wordpress.com/2015/12/03/the-frozen-fat-finger-fudge/

These fat fingers in the nitrate chronology develop characteristic shapes.

Furthermore, a sequence of fat fingers [each with its own characteristic shape] establishes a fat finger fingerprint that can be used to cross-match different ice core chronologies provided both chronology resolutions are sufficiently detailed.

Therefore, in theory, it should be possible to cross-match the GISP H nitrate fat finger fingerprint with the GRIP ammonium fat finger fingerprint because these two chemical traces are generally deemed to be closely related [even though there is an on-going debate regarding their common driver].

In theory, the fat finger forensics should fail because the official chronologies are separated in time by 240 years.

However, in practise, there is a remarkably good match between the GISP H nitrate fat finger fingerprint and the GRIP ammonium fat finger fingerprint.


The fat finger forensics suggest the GISP H nitrate record between 1845 and 1880 [35 years] matches the GRIP ammonium record between [approximately] 440 and 900 [460 years].

Therefore, either the GRIP chronology is grossly misleading or the fat finger forensics are grossly misleading.

Determining which of these alternatives is more reasonable can be achieved by comparing the GRIP chronology with the Japanese Cedar chronology [Libby – 1976].


GRIP Oxygen Isotopes
Johnsen, S.J., H.B. Clausen, W. Dansgaard, N.S. Gundestrup, C.U. Hammer, U., Andersen, K.K. Andersen, C.S. Hvidberg, D. Dahl-Jensen, J.P. Steffensen, H., Shoji, A.E. Sveinbjornsdottir, J.W.C. White, J. Jouzel, and D. Fisher., 1997.
The d18O record along the Greenland Ice Core Pproject deep ice core and the problem of possible Eemian climatic instability – Journal of Geophysical Research 102:26397-26410.

GRIP - Japanese Cedar

See: https://malagabay.wordpress.com/2015/11/19/isotopic-tree-thermometers/

Unsurprisingly, the chronologies have numerous inflection points that are well synchronised.

The very lined pattern in the ice core below a depth of around 2,000 metres suggests that the GRIP ice core has a [sporadic] glacial foundation upon which the ice sheet later developed.


See: https://malagabay.wordpress.com/2014/12/05/the-great-greenland-snow-job-06-the-64000-question/

Furthermore, the alignments suggest the ice sheet only really started to develop [above its glacial foundation] at the start of the [traditional] Little Ice Age in the sixteenth century and that annual precipitation significantly increased in Greenland after the end of the Little Ice Age around 1850.

This perspective on the Little Ice Age generally agrees with the GISP 2 ice core.


See: https://malagabay.wordpress.com/2015/11/23/the-medieval-warm-period-and-the-heinsohn-horizon/


Overall, the fat finger forensics casts serious doubt upon the mainstream narrative of the Holocene and preceding Ice Age/s and open minded readers may find Sir Henry Hoyle Howarth’s Appeal To Common Sense [1892] provides some further insights.

This historical rhyming can be clearly encountered in a magnificent work by Sir Henry Hoyle Howarth entitled: The Glacial Nightmare And The Flood; A Second Appeal To Common Sense From The Extravagance Of Some Recent Geology.


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2 Responses to Fat Finger Forensics – Stretching The Truth

  1. Tim,

    Another chronology to look at are the Korean Chosen Dynasty annals – I have the scientific paper on it etc, and the author suggests the LIA needs to be expanded from 1500CE to 1750 CE. Book is Dynamics of Comets and Asteroids and their role in Earth History, ebook in Google books and I have the dead tree Springer publication. Correlation with the Japanese Cedar chronology would be a possibility.

  2. malagabay says:

    Louis: Thank you… very interesting territory 🙂

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