The Ups and Downs of Sea Level

The Ups and Downs of Sea Level

Although Earth Scientists aren’t renowned for their mathematical skills these awfully clever Earth Scientists are very proud of their accounting skills when it comes to sea level.

This is a remarkable achievement considering they haven’t yet decided whether water is intermittently raining down upon Earth from outer space and/or continuously bubbling up from the interior of the planet and/or continuously being manufactured by atmospheric chemistry.

The origin of water on Earth, or the reason that there is clearly more liquid water on the Earth than on the other rocky planets of the Solar System, is not completely understood.

However, on the plus side, these awfully bright Earth Scientists have arrived at a mathematical consensus that water vapour is not directly haemorrhaging into outer space via Earth’s atmosphere.

Earth is too large to lose a significant proportion of its atmosphere through Jeans escape.

The current rate of loss is about three kilograms (3 kg) of hydrogen and 50 grams (50 g) of helium per second.

Unfortunately, this mathematical consensus hasn’t been observationally confirmed so it’s possible the Earth is [effectively] haemorrhaging water into outer space as water vapour disassociates into its component parts [oxygen and hydrogen] via solar powered atmospheric chemistry.


Needless to say, these mere trifles don’t keep Earth Scientists awake at night.

This is probably because Earth Scientists have an uncanny ability [when fully loaded with an Etch A Sketch and Ouija Board] to divine the changes in Global Sea Level for [roughly] the last half billion years [so they say].

Divining Global Sea Levels in ancient times is a truly remarkable gift that is beyond the reach of mere mortals because it seems impossible to simultaneously differentiate between the [all too] numerous factors that influence Global Sea Level:

More [or less] total planetary water
More [or less] frozen water stored in ice sheets, ice caps, glaciers, permafrost
More [or less] water stored in inland seas, lakes and wetlands
More [or less] water stored in depressed areas via break-through flooding
Rising [or falling] land masses
Rising [or falling] ocean floors
Opening [or closing] seas between land masses
Inflating [or shrinking] planet

Sea Level

Unsurprisingly, the divined Global Sea Level doesn’t always conform to the consensus version of historic truth.

For example, the ice age narrative requires a 120 metre drop in Global Sea Level.

Ice Age Glaciation

Whilst the diviners of ancient Global Sea Levels can only muster a measly 70 metre decline.

Global Sea Level

On the upside the CO2 Climate Catastrophe narrative predicts a 216 foot [65.8368 metres] rise in Global Sea Levels if “all the ice on land has melted and drained into the sea”.

If All The Ice Melted

National Geographic – Rising Seas

This upside CO2 driven calculation is possible [but highly improbable] given the mainstream remote water diviners have determined there are about a 221 feet [67 metres] worth of Global Sea Level [before it spreads out over dry land] contained in the frozen water currently resting upon Earth’s land surfaces.

Ice Melting Calculation

With only 67 metres to play around with the diviners of Global Sea Levels in ancient times have more of a problem explaining away the 400 metre rise in Global Sea Levels around 450 million years ago [see above: Hallam et. al. red line] and the 257 metres rise in Global Sea Levels around 100 million years ago [see above: Exxon Sea Level Curve blue line].

But the prize for the biggest Global Sea Level problem in ancient times [thus far identified] is the 760 [or 800 or 900] metre deep Western Interior Seaway that covered vast swathes of North America [including Calgary, Alberta which is currently 1,045 metres above sea level] about 100 million years ago.

The Western Interior Seaway (also called the Cretaceous Seaway, the Niobraran Sea, and the North American Inland Sea) was a large inland sea that existed during the mid- to late Cretaceous period as well as the very early Paleogene, splitting the continent of North America into two landmasses, Laramidia to the west and Appalachia to the east.

The ancient sea stretched from the Gulf of Mexico and through the middle of the modern-day countries of the United States and Canada, meeting with the Arctic Ocean to the north.

At its largest, it was 2,500 feet (760 m) deep, 600 miles (970 km) wide and over 2,000 miles (3,200 km) long.

At its largest, the Western Interior Seaway stretched from the Rockies east to the Appalachians, some 1,000 km wide.

At its deepest, it may have been only 800 or 900 meters deep, shallow in terms of seas.

Pangaea continents

Even more problematical are the crumbling chalk columns in Kansas which were left behind after the Western Interior Seaway drained away.

Monument Rocks (also Chalk Pyramids) are a series of large chalk formations in Gove County, Kansas, rich in fossils.

The chalk formations reach a height of up to 70 ft. and include formations such as buttes and arches.

The carbonate deposits were laid down during the Cretaceous Period in what was then the Western Interior Seaway, which split the continent of North America into two landmasses.

They are estimated to have been formed 80 million years ago.

Monument Rocks

See also:

The problem arises because the Earth Scientists claim these crumbling chalk columns have been withstanding the elements for about 60 million years i.e. since “the very early Paleogene”.

Castle Rock - Kansas

Castle Rock was a landmark on the Butterfield Overland Despatch route (Overland Trail).

The chalk was deposited in the area by an ancient inland sea.

The formation was formed by the weathering of the chalk by wind and water.

In 2001, following a thunderstorm, the tallest spire fell.

The Western Interior Seaway (also called the Cretaceous Seaway, the Niobraran Sea, and the North American Inland Sea) was a large inland sea that existed during the mid- to late Cretaceous period as well as the very early Paleogene, splitting the continent of North America into two landmasses, Laramidia to the west and Appalachia to the east.

The Paleogene (informally Lower Tertiary) is a geologic period and system that began 66 and ended 23.03 million years ago and comprises the first part of the Cenozoic Era.

Lasting 43 million years, the Paleogene is most notable as being the time in which mammals evolved from relatively small, simple forms into a large group of diverse animals in the wake of the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event that ended the preceding Cretaceous Period.

A far more likely possibility is that the easily muddled [and greatly befuddled] Earth Scientists have incorrectly associated parts of the Western Interior Seaway [i.e. Lake Agassiz and Lake Ojibway] with their cherished [but mythological] Ice Age narrative.

Western Interior Seaway

Lake Agassiz was a very large glacial lake located in the middle of the northern part of North America.

Around 13,000 years ago, the lake came to cover much of Manitoba, northwestern Ontario, northern Minnesota, eastern North Dakota, and Saskatchewan.

At its greatest extent, it may have covered as much as 440,000 km2 (170,000 sq mi), larger than any currently existing lake in the world (including the Caspian Sea) and approximately the size of the Black Sea. [citation needed]

Geologists have found evidence that a major outbreak of Lake Agassiz, about 13,000 years ago, drained north through the Mackenzie River into the Arctic Ocean.

The last major shift in drainage occurred around 8,200 years ago.

Therefore, the more likely scenario is that these crumbling chalk columns have only been exposed to the elements for around 8,200 years i.e. since the Western Interior Seaway actually drained away.

Lake Ojibway was a prehistoric lake in what is now northern Ontario and Quebec in Canada. Ojibway was the last of the great proglacial lakes of the last ice age.

Comparable in size to Lake Agassiz (to which it is likely to be linked), and north of the Great Lakes, it was at its greatest extent c. 8,500 years BP.

The lake drained in what must have been a catastrophic and dramatic manner around 8,200 years BP.

A comparable mechanism produced the Missoula floods that created the channeled scablands of the Columbia River basin.

The draining of Lake Ojibway is a possible cause of the 8.2 kiloyear event, a major global cooling that occurred 8,200 years BP.

Dry Falls

The Missoula Floods (also known as the Spokane Floods or the Bretz Floods) refer to the cataclysmic floods that swept periodically across eastern Washington and down the Columbia River Gorge at the end of the last ice age.

The 8.2 kiloyear event is the term that climatologists have adopted for a sudden decrease in global temperatures that occurred approximately 8,200 years before the present, or c. 6,200 BCE, and which lasted for the next two to four centuries.

During the event, atmospheric methane concentration decreased by 80 ppb or an emission reduction of 15%, by cooling and drying at a hemispheric scale.

Please be gentle with the Earth Scientists when you tell them they’ve been rumbled because the chalk crumbled only 8,200 years ago [not 60 million years ago].

In other words:

Geologic Time can be reconciled with real world events that have been dated.

Sea Level Impacts

Catastrophic Events can be correctly sequenced within Geologic Time.

The Younger Dryas impact hypothesis, also known as the Clovis comet hypothesis, is one of the competing scientific explanations for the onset of the Younger Dryas cold period after the last glacial period.

The general hypothesis states that about 12,900 BP calibrated (10,900 14C uncalibrated) years ago, air burst(s) or impact(s) from a near-Earth object(s) set areas of the North American continent on fire, disrupted climate and caused the Quaternary extinction event in North America.

This resulted in the extinction of most of the megafauna, and the rapid demise of the North American Clovis culture.

One or more big explosions may have occurred above or possibly on the Laurentide Ice Sheet in the region of the Great Lakes.

The impact of this postulated event (or series of events) goes beyond the Americas. A number of studies document this impact around the world.

For example, James Wittke et al. document deposition of impact spherules 12,800 years ago across four continents, including Europe and the Middle East.

Sea Floor Spreading Impacts

See: Tektites: 4 – Primary and Secondary Impact Craters

Also: Tektites: 3 – Still Waters Run Deep

This first cut reconciliation places the Younger Dryas Impact somewhere between 8,200 and 10,900 years BP.

Perhaps the only way to improve the accuracy of the dating is to abandon the mainstream calibration of radio-carbon dates and move towards Self-Calibrating Carbon-14 Chronologies based upon Δ14C values.

The Δ14C values in a chronology can clearly be used to identify catastrophic gaps and catastrophic rises in carbon-14.

A proof-of-concept self-calibrating chronology [based upon the Irish Oak chronology] clearly demonstrates that third order polynomials provide a series of statistical calibration curves that highlight lacunae in the samples.

Self-calibrating Carbon14 Chronology

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18 Responses to The Ups and Downs of Sea Level

  1. gymnosperm says:

    My information is that Oxygen and Nitrogen are proportional below the mesopause to the surface.

    • malagabay says:

      The dominant atmospheric gas:
      1) Molecular Nitrogen [N2] at sea-level.
      2) Atomic Oxygen [O1] at an altitude of about 200 kilometres.
      3) Helium [He] at an altitude of about 650 kilometres.
      4) Atomic Hydrogen [H1] at an altitude well above 1,000 kilometres.

      Dominant Atmpsheric Gas
      US Standard Atmosphere 1976
      International quiet solar year daytime ionospheric and atmospheric composition based on mass spectrometer measurements [Johnson, 1969; Luhmann, 1995].


  2. CW says:

    If Earth steadily loses water to space, and if water constantly arrives from space in the form of bolides (see, then it’s possible that as our solar system travels through the galaxy, Earth could be alternately exposed to greater and lesser amounts of incoming water, as well as greater and lesser rates of water loss. A long term imbalance in this give and take would eventually affect sea levels.

  3. malagabay says:

    Thank you for introducing me to the “The Big Splash”… its a very interesting thread to research.

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  5. Lisa Jones says:

    Just goes to show you that the democratic left wingers are trying to brainwash people that WE, our behaviors, are the cause of variations in the earth’s change of climate and ice melting. They know it is not true; it’s just an agenda to keep our mind focused on something that happens by itself throughout history. It’s an excuse to fund the Clintons and the Obama’s and their few cronies with millions of dollars so that they get a bigger budget to scare the shit out of the naive into thinking that the democrats are taking care of us.
    What propaganda that group of that bipartisan few are making people strangely enough to vote for them b/c they think these people are taking care of them, instead, they are exploiting them as sheep.
    “No people, we do not have the power to destroy the earth.” The earth has gone through much worse and has survived. use your commonsense and join the wolves – The Republican party. They lead their people far closer to the truth than the lies that are meant to distract you on purpose so you are ignorant of the real truth.
    Seriously, people, Barack Hieussan Obama is one of those distractions away from the truth. Geeze people, my five year told me he would never vote for him just because of his middle name. Bravo, son!
    Seriously, people it doesn’t take a person that can recite the alphabet to figure that one out. As soon as I heard his name, I had already made up my mind not to vote for him. This shit couldn’t be made up in a fiction novel because nobody would think the plot plausible b/c the truth is stranger than fiction.
    They even tried to minimize his name as an effort to distract the massive division of sheep into believing, “we” are destroying the world, instead of believing that the earth goes through natural cycles of phenomenons, e.g., like cycles of mass extinctions, meteor strikes, volcanic eruptions, earthquakes on Richter scales never seen before and tsunamis higher than all the continents combined that have occurred and will occur over and over again like we are being informed here, in this article.
    The wolves have sense enough that we can never even come close to overcome mother nature. Not only do the sheep believe they can, they are paying millions of our tax dollars to these special interest groups and to the top democrat officials, e.g., Hillary Clinton, and Barack Heissen Obama, to become the Zombies that they are for believing while the few people I just mentioned and their cronies are laughing their asses off and making money via taxes off the sheep who gladly don’t mind paying, and off the few wolves who angerly know it’s propaganda. These are the wolf people that the democrats would love to destroy for their efforts in exposing the truth.

    Trust me,
    Lisa Jones, J.D. Esq.

  6. Lisa Jones says:

    Of course it is when we are fed a lot of propaganda through a left winged regime that is making HUNDRED of millions of dollars by spreading an OBVIOUS fallacious load of propaganda that is destroying our world. Meanwhile, they are changing the U.S. history, its beliefs, and its forward direction, its law for an unnatural world order that is being sewn in the world’s, particularly the U.S’s., fabric as we speak.
    Meanwhile, we are being distracted that the world is going to be destroyed by us when the fact is the earth has endured catastrophic events over and over again and has regained life every time. No wonder you believe “Trust” is in short supply these days. But, only if you are a borderline sheep. However, it’s normal for anyone to question their surroundings. Even for the wolves, but the wolves generally have a solid gut feeling that they trust. The wolves shall believe that a solid American, or any country for that matter, can trust “the observable facts,” whereas the lefties spin the facts, and the sheep and the zombies follow, spending extra money beyond taxes b/c they are the ones easily brainwashed into this propaganda rather than seek the truth for themselves – a wolf.

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  8. Uplift and submergence are deduced from the various inselbergs and remnants of horizontally layered strata, the core assumption being that these sediments were deposited in water (seas etc).

    But what if these sediments were deposited literally on the surface by magnetohydrodynamics? Then no need to get headaches trying to figure out how sediments are at their present day locations . Have to genuflect on this a bit. Thanks Tim. 🙂

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  12. Lots of Hydrogen and Oxygen in the Sun.
    A violent expansion of Adam/Earth would release masses of gases that would then cool

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