Electric Universe: Spinning Up Gravity

Last month Miles Mathis mauled [amongst others] the Electric Universe movement.

They hook you by admitting what you already know: the upper levels of the mainstream are composed of a bunch of liars and frauds, and textbook physics is little more than an embarrassing edifice of fudged math and bad theory.

Using real plasma physics as ballast, they then cobble together an electric universe replacement for the old tinkertoy gravity model, and you feel like you have made some progress.

But your progress is illusory, because the Thunderbolts were created to fail.

Not only are their theories shallow and extremely limited, but they are purposely created to self-destruct upon any serious reading.

Is the Electric Universe Controlled Opposition?
Miles Mathis – 1 May 2018

Click to access thunder.pdf

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if someone [somewhere] returned the compliment.

Indeed, it is possible the Electric Universe movement has [either by accident or design] adopted some attributes associated with a limited hangout and controlled opposition.

The phrase “The Electric Universe” is a very misleading but very successful marketing meme.

The problem being:

It overemphasises Electricity at the expense of Magnetism and Fluid Dynamics.

The clear risk being the marketing meme can easily morph into a Limited Hangout.


However, in the wider context, it’s very likely that someone [somewhere] has expressed similar sentiments about every other theory that’s ever been promoted.

Personally, I’m well past the point of caring.

That’s because my preference is to prioritise observational data and descriptions.

And it’s the observational data and descriptions that make the Lorentz Force so very interesting – especially if you’re an Electric Universe evangelist.

On the one hand:

Wikipedia apes the academic tradition of pretending to understand what they don’t understand by reducing the Lorentz Force to a mathematical motion model that employs straight line vectors to describe dynamic helical motion in a fluid.


Even the more helpful mainstream representations of the Lorentz Force prefer to avoid the concept of dynamic helical motion by illustrating circular motion.

Watch the associated YouTube video by clicking here.

On the other hand:

The Electric Universe does provide a diagram that includes dynamic helical motion in the context of the Lorentz Force but [for some unfathomable reason] prefers to emphasise and illustrate a “field-aligned relativistic electron producing X-ray wavelength synchrotron radiation” aka gobbledegook.

We note in passing that secondary effects of relativistic electrons spiraling around magnetic field lines in space are often detected in the form of synchrotron radiation.

From consideration of the Lorentz Force Law, we know that there must therefore be an electric field aligned with the magnetic field and that the axial movement of the spiraling electrons with a velocity component parallel to the magnetic field constitutes a field-aligned current.

These currents are Birkeland currents; they occur at many cosmic scales.

Chapter 4 – Electromagnetism – 4.3 The Lorentz Force Law
Essential Guide to the EU – Bob Johnson and Jim Johnson – 4 Nov 2011
The Thunderbolts Project

Essential Guide to the EU – Chapter 4 Electromagnetism

While back in the observational domain:

Independent observers might consider the Lorentz Force is best illustrated by the dynamic helical motion of the Solar System as it hurtles through space.

The orbital speed of the Solar System about the center of the Milky Way is approximately 251 km/s (156 mi/s).

At this speed, it takes around 1,190 years for the Solar System to travel a distance of 1 light-year, or 7 days to travel 1 AU.


Watch the associated YouTube video by clicking here.

Or the dynamic helical motion of the Milky Way as it spirals through space.

Another reference frame is provided by the cosmic microwave background (CMB).

The Milky Way is moving at 552 ± 6 km/s (1,235,000 ± 13,000 mph) with respect to the photons of the CMB, toward 10.5 right ascension, −24° declination (J2000 epoch, near the center of Hydra).


To watch the associated YouTube video click here.

(3) The theory I propose may therefore be called a theory of the Electromagnetic Field, because it has to do with the space in the neighbourhood of the electric or magnetic bodies, and it may be called a Dynamical Theory, because it assumes that in that space there is matter in motion, by which the observed electromagnetic phenomena are produced.

A Dynamical Theory of the Electromagnetic Field – James Clerk Maxwell – 1865

A system that’s been spun up by the Lorentz Force creates a Dynamic Vortex Pressure [aka Gravity] that sorts [aka sequences] the embedded objects by density.

Pressure in a Vortex

The fluid motion in a vortex creates a dynamic pressure (in addition to any hydrostatic pressure) that is lowest in the core region, closest to the axis, and increases as one moves away from it, in accordance with Bernoulli’s Principle.

One can say that it is the gradient of this pressure that forces the fluid to follow a curved path around the axis.



A system that’s been spun up by the Lorentz Force creates the Dynamic Vortex Pressure that [also] induces embedded objects to spin due to the Magnus Effect.

The Magnus effect is an observable phenomenon that is commonly associated with a spinning object that drags air faster around one side, creating a difference in pressure that moves it in the direction of the lower-pressure side.


See: https://malagabay.wordpress.com/2015/11/09/the-clockwork-moon/

Conceptionally, this creates a Clockwork Universe that embraces multiple levels of nested Magnetohydrodynamic Cogs that are ultimately driven by the Lorentz Force.

Magnetohydrodynamics (MHD) is the study of the magnetic properties of electrically conducting fluids.

Examples of such magneto-fluids include plasmas, liquid metals, salt water, and electrolytes.

The word “magneto-hydro-dynamics” is derived from magneto- meaning magnetic field, hydro- meaning water, and dynamics meaning movement.

The field of MHD was initiated by Hannes Alfvén, for which he received the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1970.


See: https://malagabay.wordpress.com/2014/08/12/the-clockwork-universe/

This also creates a paradigm that someone [somewhere] will describe as a limited hangout, controlled opposition or fruitcake fiction.

Either way:

The reader is encouraged [as always] to review the evidence and draw their own conclusions.

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12 Responses to Electric Universe: Spinning Up Gravity

  1. johnm33 says:

    The only model that allows for the incorporation of all the religious and scientific, as far as I can see, is the model of the ancient seers as described by the theososphists. It suggests to me that we’re inside a black hole, [I remember reading a book in the seventies where one seer described a journey through what I later realised was an event horizon.] The particles which make up this singularity, almost infinitely tiny when they were beyond that horizon are now the voids between the galaxies, and the universe as it appears to us is the magnetohydrodynamic storm of all the information, momentum and charge being resolved into an infinitly dense self aware singularity. Which constantly recreates itself in the form of holographic bubbles intimately connected to the whole.
    Go to http://hpb.narod.ru/tph/TPH_OCTC.HTM click ‘nature of matter’ scroll down to ‘KOILON — THE AETHER OF SPACE’
    “To any power of sight which we can bring to bear upon it this koilon appears homogeneous, though it is not probable that it is so in reality. It answers to scientific demands in so far that it is out of all proportion denser than any substance known to us — quite infinitely denser — belonging to another order and type of density altogether. For the very kernel and nexus of the whole conception is that what we call matter is not koilon, but the absence of koilon. So that to comprehend the real conditions we must modify our ideas of matter and space – modify them almost to the extent of reversing our terminology. Emptiness has become solidity and solidity emptiness.”
    A physicists veiw, http://www.smphillips.mysite.com/ the book page looks interesting.

  2. cadxx says:

    It’s all very cyberpunk and Victorian, Mary Shelly, Babbage and Ada King – thinking cogs. From an age when they did have good ideas and also very bad ones. It was a time when the science bus turned into a cul de sac, shed it’s wheels and abandoned any good ideas. You can’t make bad science into good science.
    It’s hard work finding the secrets of the universe. Those who have done so such as Keely Russell and Tesla were all silenced. I’m am quite sure there are men? behind the curtain who don’t want us to know.
    I think it has to do with vibration and resonance, like music, but I’m not sure how it all works. If I ever do find the answer it will appear on my website.

  3. Yry says:

    Over the years, I formed the certainty that the EU group wilfully keeps
    from speaking about the “beyond observable and admissible physics”
    which does exist since the first V2’s and, prior to that, which Tesla
    likely witnessed at times.
    The EU’s attitude is political because they are in the process of gaining

    They are at ‘Stage 1’ against their will!

    ‘Stage 2’ is now very well documented and monitored since the mid-1940’s.

    ‘Stage 3’ is exceedingly tricky and has to do with stunning “interlacing”…

    ‘Stage 4’? If it exists, it would be a nightmare to monitor…

    Importantly and in parallel, the energy discovered by Karl Von Reichenbach
    could be tied to ‘Stage 3’ pending more work.
    (Cfer the most valuable website nextexx.com for the compilation of Von
    Reichenbach’s breakthroughs by “cadxx”, the founder of the site).

  4. HM says:

    Someone did “return the compliment” about Mathis

  5. EUT is not a united group. There do seem to be individuals who may be “wreckers” and one or two who may try to become a leader. But lead whom? Where?

    The imperatives are fairly clear: save the “human” species. Save as many other species and as much culture as possible. But from what?

    The Greens, antihumanism, are a replacement for old religions, but if a catastrophe occurs again, will the old become new again?

    Humanity has done quite well: more alive now than have ever died. Reducing scarcity and excess production as a feature. Drugs and leisure time up the wazoo.

    Censorship of CME’s occurring when a comet hits the star has failed. We know. Venus has a plasma tail that no longer reaches Earth. NASA said so….

    So a Grand Min may last 70 yrs, one of the longest and deepest of which we “know…. just waiting now….!

  6. Sergio says:

    So it seems you use the same gobbly gook to discount the gobliy gook. That doesn’t make sense. So what about the Safire project that shows us the sun is electric not lol gas. Lol.
    By the way what is your deffintion of matter. Your take on electric universe is not very convincing especially when standard cosmosmology constantpy comes up with more and more bullshit to fit the broken foundation of relativity and quantum physics Safire project should give you something to cry about. Let see how you deny it.

  7. Sergio says:

    There is nothing that the standard model assholes can take away from the electric universe. It’s all there in black and white. And no need to make up the pure shit that has been made up. Made up. Crap.to keep propogating a bullshit foundation of. Special relativity and gravity and nuclear sun’s. Lol. Look at the data they get from the satellite that prove more and more that electtrical forces rule the verse not bs man made unicorn dark matter dark energy lol nutron star. Lol black holes lol. Those are way more stupid not correct. Guesses. As opposed to thunderbolts scientific observations. As opposed to B’s math. Whos values don’t equvilate to the real world. Just made up to make there broken shit work.

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