Catastrophic English: India In Greece

India In Greece

The “conjectured confederation of seafaring raiders” known as the The Sea Peoples appear to be good candidates for the westward migration of the Roma people across the Middle East and onwards into the Mediterranean basin and Europe.

The Sea Peoples, sometimes referred to as the Sea People, were a conjectured confederation of seafaring raiders, traditionally thought to originate from either western Anatolia or from southern Europe, specifically from a region of the Aegean Sea.

Although the archaeological inscriptions do not include reference to a migration, the Sea Peoples are conjectured to have sailed around the eastern Mediterranean and invaded Anatolia, Syria, Canaan, Cyprus, and Egypt toward the end of the Bronze Age.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Peoples

The similarities in the geographic spread of the Doric language and the spread of The Sea Peoples in the eastern Mediterranean opens up the possibility that some of The Sea Peoples became known as the Dorians.

Accounts vary as to the Dorians’ place of origin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorians

Doric or Dorian was a Ancient Greek dialect.

Its variants were spoken in the southern and eastern Peloponnese, as well as in Sicily, Epirus, Macedonia, Southern Italy, Crete, Rhodes, some islands in the southern Aegean Sea and some cities on the south east coast of Anatolia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doric_Greek

The eastern Mediterranean appears to have been flooded with various groups of The Sea Peoples between 1275 BCE and 1000 BCE.

There are seven Egyptian sources which refer to more than one of the nine peoples:
c. 1275 BCE: Kadesh Inscription:[29] 3 peoples…
c. 1200 BCE: Great Karnak Inscription: 5 peoples…
c. 1200 BCE: Athribis Stele:[30] 4 peoples…
c. 1150 BCE: Medinet Habu: 7 peoples…
c. 1150 BCE: Papyrus Harris I: 5 peoples…
c. 1150 BCE: Rhetorical Stela to Ramesses III, Chapel C, Deir el-Medina: 2 peoples…
c. 1000 BCE: Onomasticon of Amenope: 5 peoples…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Peoples

Therefore, it’s not unreasonable to conjecture that a group of Roma people [aka The Sea Peoples] settled in Corinth “around 900 BC” and [subsequently] become known as the Dorians in the mainstream narrative.

Corinth was a city-state (polis) on the Isthmus of Corinth, the narrow stretch of land that joins the Peloponnese to the mainland of Greece, roughly halfway between Athens and Sparta.

Ancient Corinth was one of the largest and most important cities of Greece, with a population of 90,000 in 400 BC.

There was a settlement on the coast near Lechaion which traded across the Corinthian Gulf; the site of Corinth itself was likely not heavily occupied again until around 900 BC, when it is believed that the Dorians settled there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Corinth

Clearly, one major advantage of this hypothesis is that it explains how Ancient Greek acquired it’s Sanskrit affinities and archaic features.

Intriguingly, supporting evidence for this hypothesis has been found in Corinth.

Firstly, Corinthian coins boldly display the swastika which is an “auspicious symbol in Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism and dates back to before the 2nd century BC.”

The swastika (also known as the hakenkreuz, gammadion cross, cross cramponnée, or tetraskelion) (as a character: 卐 or 卍) is an ancient religious symbol that generally takes the form of an equilateral cross, with its four legs bent at 90 degrees.

It is considered to be a sacred and auspicious symbol in Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism and dates back to before the 2nd century BC.

Western literature’s older term for the symbol, gammadion cross, derives mainly from its appearance, which is identical to four Greek gamma letters affixed to each other.

The name swastika comes from the Sanskrit word svastika, meaning “lucky or auspicious object”.

It has been used as a decorative element in various cultures since at least the Neolithic.

It is known most widely as an important symbol, long used in Indian religions, denoting “auspiciousness.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

Pegasos

The stater, as a Greek silver currency, first as ingots, and later as coins, circulated from the 8th century BC to 50 AD. The earliest known stamped stater (having the mark of some authority in the form of a picture or words) is an electrum turtle coin, struck at Aegina that dates to about 700 BC.

The silver stater minted at Corinth of 8.6 grams weight was divided into three silver drachmas of 2.9 grams, but was often linked to the Athenian silver didrachm (two drachmas) coin weighing 8.6 grams.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stater

The koppa was used as a symbol for the city of Corinth, which had the early spelling of Ϙόρινθος.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koppa_%28letter%29

Secondly, Corinthian coins boldly display the ancient puranic Uchchaihshravas [a white horse with two wings] which became the more familiar Pegasus of Greek mythology.

Aśvaḥ is the Sanskrit word for a horse, one of the significant animals finding references in the Vedas as well as later Hindu scriptures.

There are repeated references to the horse the Vedas (c. 1500 – 500 BC).

In particular the Rigveda has many equestrian scenes, often associated with chariots.

The Ashvins are divine twins named for their horsemanship.

Puranic legend

The legend states that the first horse emerged from the depth of the ocean during the churning of the oceans.

It was a horse with white color and had two wings.

It was known by the name of Uchchaihshravas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashva

Uchchaihshravas

Vimāna is a mythological flying palace or chariot described in Hindu texts and Sanskrit epics.

The Sanskrit word vi-māna literally means “measuring out, traversing” or “having been measured out”.

The predecessors of the flying vimanas of the Sanskrit epics are the flying chariots employed by various gods in the Vedas: the Sun (see Sun chariot) and Indra and several other Vedic deities are transported by flying wheeled chariots pulled by animals, usually horses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vimana

Silver stater minted at Corinth

Pegasus is one of the best known creatures in Greek mythology.

He is a winged divine stallion also known as a horse usually depicted as pure white in color.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus

Thirdly, a Corinthian floor mosaic on display in the Museum of Ancient Corinth clearly depicts Krishna standing in a characteristically relaxed pose [one leg bent in front of the other] with a flute raised to his lips whilst accompanied by cows.

Krishna is a god, worshipped across many traditions of religion in a variety of different perspectives.

Krishna is recognised as the complete and or as the Supreme God in his own right.

Krishna is one of the most widely revered and popular of all Hindu deities.

The name originates from the Sanskrit word Kṛṣṇa, which is primarily an adjective meaning “black”, “dark” or “dark blue”.

The waning moon is called Krishna Paksha, relating to the adjective meaning “darkening”.

He is often shown wearing a silk golden yellow dhoti and a peacock feather crown.

Common depictions show him as a little boy, or as a young man in a characteristically relaxed pose, playing the flute.

In this form, he usually stands with one leg bent in front of the other with a flute raised to his lips, in the Tribhanga posture, accompanied by cows, emphasising his position as the divine herdsman, Govinda, or with the gopis (milkmaids)…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krishna

Krishna flute cows

Overall, Edward Pococke found the evidence so overwhelming that in 1852 he stated “the primitive history of Greece is the primitive history of India”.

The primitive history of Greece is the primitive history of India.

This may appear a startling theory : it is not the less a simple fact.

It is the history of much of India, in its language, in its religion, in its sects, in its princes and bravest clans ; and he who shall attempt to decypher those venerable manuscripts, miscalled ” Greek Mythology, ” and ” Greek Heroic-Legends ” without bringing these combined lights to bear in one focus upon their time-worn surface, will still continue a stranger to the
true history of primitive Hellas.

India in Greece – Edward Pococke – 1852
https://archive.org/details/indiaingreeceort00poco

This statement didn’t impressed the mainstream myth makers because [all these years later] they are still busily employed trying to avoid the obvious conclusion that Ancient Greek was a modified [aka “disfigured”] form of Sanskrit.

But, perhaps, in no similar instance have events occurred fraught with consequences of such magnitude, as those flowing from the great religious war which, for a long series of years, raged throughout the length and breadth of India.

That contest ended by the expulsion of vast bodies of men ; many of them skilled in the arts of early civilisation, and still greater numbers, warriors by profession.

Driven beyond the Himalayan Mountains in the north, and to Ceylon, their last stronghold in the south, swept across the valley of the Indus on the west, this persecuted people carried with them the germs of the European arts and sciences.

The mighty human tide that passed the barrier of the Punjab, rolled onward towards its destined channel in Europe and in Asia, to fulfil its beneficent office in the moral fertilisation of the world.

The Brahminical and Buddhistic sects, who to this day hold divided sway over the greater part of Asia, were the two great champions in this long contest.

The former was victorious.

The chiefs of the Buddhistic faith were driven to take refuge beyond the reach of their oppressors, carrying with them into Bactria, Persia, Asia Minor, Greece, Phoenicia, and Great Britain, the devotion of their early sages, and an astonishing degree of commercial energy, attended by singular skill in the sciences of astronomy and mechanics.

The virulence of religious feud had run high, and the poets of the Brahminical sect sang of their vanquished opponents with a contempt and ferocity so unnatural, as to give their compositions the air of the wildest fiction ; their language, like their exultation, was extravagant; but the reality of their victory is not less certain than the gigantic expulsion of the Buddhist worshippers.

It was the issue of this struggle that thenceforward was for centuries to give its devotional complexion to the world throughout northern Asia, and with no unfrequent intervals, from the western hank of the Indus to the Pillars of Hercules.

In the Greek language alone – or, rather, the Sanscrit, which we receive as Greek – there are evidences the most convincing, to substantiate this statement.

One doctrine and one language were the guard and the missionary of the Buddhist faith.

That language was a modified Sanscrit ; and, disfigured as it is by a second-hand reception from the Greeks, it offers abundant evidences of the truth of my position, by the readiness with which the names of tribes, rivers, and mountains, are still to be perceived, and faithfully translated, even through this corrupt medium.

Those who are not familiar with the transmutations and disguises of language, may not readily comprehend both the certainty and the ease with which such changes may be detected : of these the ordinary dialectic varieties of the Greek will convey a very imperfect idea.

As this mighty emigration from India, though intimately connected with the early settlements of Greece, acts only a subordinate part in that complete and united movement, which, as it were, with one effort, gave a population to Hellas, I purpose giving a general view of its results, reserving, for a more connected examination, the original seat, the actual progression, and the final settlement, of the true Hellenic population.

India in Greece – Edward Pococke – 1852
https://archive.org/details/indiaingreeceort00poco

These mainstream myth makers are also busily employed trying to avoid the obvious conclusion that the Saxons followed ancient Vedic traditions.

With these warlike pilgrims on their journey to the far West, – bands as enterprising as the race of Anglo-Saxons, the descendants, in fact, of some of those very Sacas of Northern India, – like them, too, filling the solitudes, or facing the perils of the West, – there marched a force of native warriors, sufficiently powerful to take possession of the richest of the soil that lay before them.

Though unsuccessful in the great struggle that terminated in the expulsion of themselves and their religious teachers, their practised hardihood left them nothing to fear from the desultory attacks of any tribes who might be bold enough to obstruct their march.

That their movement, however, toward the land of their adoption was not uniform, though possessing singular harmony in their Grecian colonisation, and that not a few intermediate settlements were effected, – some of them of a durable character, – is evident from the names of tribes, rivers, mountains, and religious sects, which lie scattered in profusion between the north-western frontier of India, and the north-eastern boundary of Greece.

I would here pause awhile, to impress upon the reader the vast extent of this Pelasgic emigration, and its historical value.

The primitive history of Greece is the primitive history of India.
….
It is from the Himala Mountains of the Sagas that the ” Saca-soono,” those sons of the Saca (“Saxons or Sac-sons,” for the words are at once Sanscrit, Saxon, and English) derived their Himmel or “Heaven.”

Thus did the Indian Heaven become that of the German.

India in Greece – Edward Pococke – 1852
https://archive.org/details/indiaingreeceort00poco

Indian Anglo-Saxons

See: https://malagabay.wordpress.com/2016/06/16/7404/

Unsurprisingly, the Ashvins [“divine twin horsemen in the Rigveda”] are echoed by the Germanic brothers Hengist and Horsa “who led the Angle, Saxon, Frisian, and Jutish armies”.

There are repeated references to the horse the Vedas (c. 1500 – 500 BC).

In particular the Rigveda has many equestrian scenes, often associated with chariots.

The Ashvins are divine twins named for their horsemanship.

Word Ašva is recorded as a noun meaning female horse in Prussian Lithuanians language.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashva

The Ashvins or Ashwini Kumaras (Sanskrit: अश्विन, aśvin-, dual aśvinau), in Hindu mythology, are two Vedic gods, divine twin horsemen in the Rigveda, sons of Saranyu, a goddess of the clouds and wife of Surya in his form as Vivasvant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashvins

Hengist (or Hengest) and Horsa (or Hors) are figures of Anglo-Saxon history, which records the two as the Germanic brothers who led the Angle, Saxon, Frisian, and Jutish armies that conquered the first territories of Britain in the 5th century.

Other founding horse-associated twin brothers are attested among various other Germanic peoples, and appear in other Indo-European cultures.

As a result, scholars have theorized a pan-Germanic mythological origin for Hengist and Horsa, stemming originally from divine twins found in Proto-Indo-European religion.

On farmhouses in Lower Saxony and Schleswig-Holstein, Northern Germany, horse-head gables were referred to as “Hengist and Hors” as late as around 1875.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hengist_and_Horsa

Horse head gables in Northern Germany

However, more shockingly, Edward Pococke’s India In Greece implies the overtly genocidal period of the European Apartheid System may date back to the Roman Republic when the “Romans totally destroyed Corinth in 146 BC” and then continued with the Roman Empire when “the new rulers of Roman Gaul subsequently introduced measures to wipe out the druids from that country” and “the Roman general Gaius Suetonius Paulinus, determined to break the power of the Celtic druids” [in Anglesey].

But I cannot be content with a passing notice of the people of the Dras; for, as a nation, we are deeply interested in their early history.

Not only so, we have been closely connected with them ; and, farther still, long did they dwell in our island, and by the interesting records and traditions concerning them that have
descended to our own times, they have provoked our unabated and lively curiosity.

Why should I conceal the fact ?

These Druo-pes are our own ancient Drui-des or Druids !

These venerated sages, chiefs of the tribes of the Draus, were of the Indu Vansa or Lunar Race.

Hence the symbol of the Crescent worn by these Druids ; they too, like most of their race, were Bud’hists, and they shall tell their own history.

Their chief settlement here, was “the E-Budes,” i.e. ” the Hi-Bud’h-des,” and their last refuge in Britain from the oppression of the Romans, the descendants from their own stock, was the “Isle of Saints” or “Mona.”

This is indeed the Druid Bard – this, the minstrel of the Cymry – this, the Bhaut of the ancient Bajpoot – this, the harper of Homeric song – this, the Demodocus of Homeric feasts – this, the glorious minstrel, who, in the guise of a divinity, draws homage from his fellows – this, in truth, the Delphic god – this, the founder of the wealthy shrine, the oracular response – this, the subject of the glowing lay, the living faith of the Homerid of Chios.

This is the god, who, from his lofty watch-tower, spies the tall bark of Crete as it ploughs its way towards the Peloponnesus ; he it is, whom the Bud ‘hist poet glorifies with the ascription of saintly power over the elements of nature.

The settlement of the people of the Draus in this island, the northern part of which was essentially that of the Hi-Budh-des (E-budh-des,) or the land of the Hiya Bud’ has, at once accounts most satisfactorily for the amazing mechanical skill displayed in the structure of Stone Henge, and harmonises with the industrious and enterprising character of the Buddhists throughout the old world; for these are the same people who drained the valley of Cashmir, and in all probability the plains of Thessaly.

India in Greece – Edward Pococke – 1852
https://archive.org/details/indiaingreeceort00poco

Anglesey or Ynys Môn is an island off the north-west coast of Wales.

Ynys Môn, the island’s Welsh name, was first recorded as Latin Mona by various Roman sources.

It was likewise known to the Saxons as Monez.

The Brittonic original was in the past taken to have meant “Island of the Cow”.

This view is linguistically untenable, however, according to modern scientific philology.

The etymology thus currently remains a mystery.

Poetic names for Anglesey include the Old Welsh Ynys Dywyll (“Shady” or “Dark Isle”) for its former groves and Ynys y Cedairn (“Isle of the Brave”) for its royal courts; Gerald of Wales’s Môn Mam Cymru (“Môn, Mother of Wales”) for its productivity; and Y fêl Ynys (“Honey Isle”).

Historically, Anglesey has long been associated with druids.

In AD 60 the Roman general Gaius Suetonius Paulinus, determined to break the power of the Celtic druids, attacked the island utilizing his amphibious Batavian contingent as a surprise vanguard assault and then destroying the shrine and the sacred groves.

News of Boudica’s revolt reached him just after his victory, causing him to withdraw his army before consolidating his conquest.

The island was finally brought into the Roman Empire by Gnaeus Julius Agricola, the Roman Governor of Britain, in AD 78.

During the Roman occupation, the area was notable for the mining of copper.

The foundations of Caer Gybi as well as a fort at Holyhead are Roman, and the present road from Holyhead to Llanfairpwllgwyngyll may originally have been a Roman road.

The island was known to the Romans as Mona.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglesey

A tour in Wales by Thomas Pennant

Ancient Corinth was one of the largest and most important cities of Greece, with a population of 90,000 in 400 BC.

The Romans totally destroyed Corinth in 146 BC, built a new city in its place in 44 BC, and later made it the provincial capital of Greece.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Corinth

The earliest surviving literary evidence of the druids emerges from the classical world of Greece and Rome.

The archaeologist Stuart Piggott compared the attitude of the Classical authors towards the druids as being similar to the relationship that had existed in the 15th and 18th centuries between Europeans and the societies that they were just encountering in other parts of the world, such as the Americas and the South Sea Islands.

In doing so, he highlighted that both the attitude of the Early Modern Europeans and the Classical authors was that of “primitivism”, viewing these newly encountered societies as primitive because of their lesser technological development and perceived backwardness in socio-political development.

During the Gallic Wars of 58 to 51 BCE, the Roman army, led by Julius Caesar, conquered the many tribal chiefdoms of Gaul, and annexed it as a part of the Roman Empire.

According to accounts produced in the following centuries, the new rulers of Roman Gaul subsequently introduced measures to wipe out the druids from that country.

According to Pliny the Elder, writing in the 70s CE, it was the emperor Tiberius (who ruled from 14 to 37 CE), who introduced laws banning not only druid practices, but also other native soothsayers and healers, a move which Pliny applauded, believing that it would end human sacrifice in Gaul.

A somewhat different account of Roman legal attacks on the druids was made by Suetonius, writing in the 2nd century CE, when he claimed that Rome’s first emperor, Augustus (who had ruled from 27 BCE till 14 CE), had decreed that no-one could be both a Druid and a Roman citizen, and that this was followed by a law passed by the later Emperor Claudius (who had ruled from 41 to 54 CE) which “thoroughly suppressed” the druids by banning their religious practices.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druid

Tacitus reports that golden sickles were used in Druidic rituals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sickle

The Frankleben hoard is a significant hoard deposit of the European Bronze Age, associated with the Unstrut group (associated with the Tumulus or early Urnfield culture (ca. 1500–1250 BC).

It was discovered in 1946 in a brown coal pit near Frankleben, now a part of Braunsbedra municipality, Saxony-Anhalt, Germany.

The finds consist of a total of about 45 kg of bronze artefacts, most of them sickles, alongside some axeheads.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankleben_hoard

Sceptical readers are advised to apply Occam’s Razor.

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